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Es difícil no fracasar cuando no se conoce el problema que se intenta solucionar. Se está relacionando el machismo, que es una serie de creencias que estaban muy extendidas socialmente (afortunadamente cada vez menos), con una conducta criminal firmemente rechazada por la mayoría de la sociedad.
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"Esa gente que mata a sus parejas y a menudo se suicida después tienen transtornos psicológicos graves"
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Supermachista:
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Bueno, fracasar, lo que se dice fracasar, según como se mire.
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Despúes de la afirmación anterior estaba como loco buscando el enlace donde lo ví, lo he encontrado. |
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"La mujer: animal de lujo en las clases altas; animal de cría en la clase media; animal de cría, de trabajo y de carga, en las clases bajas."
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Ya se lo han dicho hasta la saciedad al Supermachista, pero lo repito: el machismo no sólo son creencias, sino que son conductas agresivas que se justifican con unas supuestas creencias. Estas conductas no son de patología psicológica sino de patología social.
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http://www.el-refugioesjo.net/maltrato/hombres_maltratados.htm |
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Muy triste esta realidad que sufren las mujeres. A mi personalmente cuando leo estas noticias me echo las manos a la cabeza y no puedo creer lo que ocurre. No entiendo a estos hombres, quizá sea porque haber sido hijo de unos padres que me educaron en las ideas de la igualdad de sexos y el respeto a las personas, independientemente del sexo de éstas, no soy capaz de concebir maltratar o matar a otra persona.
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En fin, tenía entendido que el alcoholismo y la drogadicción se consideran trastornos graves. De los cuatro casos que conozco de violencia doméstica, tres están directamente relacionados con alcohol y drogas, el cuarto con un transtorno psicológico diagnosticado. De los de alcohol y drogas, los dos en que los agresores eran hombres se rehabilitaron y las familias se han mantenido. El tercer caso (agresora mujer) acabó con separación después de caer él por las escaleras. El cuarto caso, no relacionado con drogas, se arregló cuando la mujer (sí, también) se sometió a un tratamiento psicológico prolongado.
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Supermachista: ¿apoyando a quién? ¿a los asesinos? Ya la ley española los protege, pues el sistema penal está orientado a la rehabilitación.
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Bueno, Teresa, eso es cierto. Pero ¿cómo lo cambias? No estoy de acuerdo con supermachista en que haya que "apoyar". Pero si creo que hay que educar y en la educación culpabilizar al que no sabe siempre es malo.
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Anónima: todo el mundo "sabe" que no debe matar, que la vida es sagrada. Yo estoy de acuerdo con todas las medidas educativas y preventivas, pero quien asesina es un asesino y en los casos de los asesinatos machistas (hoy ha habido otro, por cierto) los asesinos no tienen justificación alguna y menos en razón de sus creencias. No son pobrecitos ignorantes o pobrecitos enfermos psicológicos. Son asesinos, normalmente fríos y calculadores, vengativos y con deseo expreso de hacer daño: conmigo o muerta.
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Bueno, es que cuando ya han asesinado a la mujer ya no hay mucho que hacer salvo deshaogarse llamándoles lo que mejor te parezca. La cuestión es que haces con las personas que agreden a sus parejas para que dejen de hacerlo antes de matarlas. Ahí es donde yo creo que posturas en las que se diga que los maltratadores son futuros asesinos y no pobrecitos ignorantes o enfermos psicologicos puede que sean acordes con la realidad pero no ayudan a cambiarla. |
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No sé, la cosa es compleja, pues una cosa es el maltratador y otra el asesino machista que mata cuando la mujer lo abandona o lo rechaza, muchas veces sin que haya historial de maltrato previo.
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El tema del maltrato es muy dificil y controvertido, y creo que las opiniones de las personas que no son estudiosas del tema o que no lo está viendo con perspectiva, muchas veces ayudan a extender falsas creencias.
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Además deciros que los casos de maltrato de la mujer hacia el hombre no es sólo maltrato psicológico,a pesar de lo que cree mucha gente (está creencia es fruto también de una sociedad machista donde la mujer no hace uso de su fuerza sino de su "manipulación"). Envenenamientos, guatazos, puñetazos, e incluso golpes con objetos, amenazas...En fin, toda una lista de agresiones. También las hay que después de haber maltratado al hombre denuncian a estos por maltrato y se quedan con la casa, con los niños, etc. Imaginaros la situación en la que se encuentran estas personas, totalmente desprotegidos y además rechazados por una sociedad que espera que se comporten como "machos".
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>un hombre tiene que ser fuerte. Y si está anulado psicológicamente es un pardillo
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Otro yo: no se si me das la razón o no...la verdad es que no se lo que quieres decir. En fin, por si hay malentendidos, lo que quiero expresar con esa frase no es mi opinión, sino lo que la sociedad opina. |
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